tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7812058365408775514.post5217964507096620742..comments2024-03-27T02:19:24.477-05:00Comments on Faces of the Hindenburg: Josef LeibrechtUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7812058365408775514.post-39266699259790437392015-05-09T21:37:11.486-05:002015-05-09T21:37:11.486-05:00Hi Allen,
I'm way ahead of you, my friend! I ...Hi Allen,<br /><br />I'm way ahead of you, my friend! I actually posted an article on your great uncle on my other Hindenburg blog last year.<br /><br />http://projektlz129.blogspot.com/2014/05/allen-orlando-hagaman-1885-1937.html<br /><br />I would have added it to the "Faces" blog here, but since I want to keep the top two articles here as the Passenger and Crew lists (since that helps everyone navigate the site) it'd have been tricky to post your great uncle's article here. So, it's on my other blog.<br /><br />I'll also drop you a note at your gmail address.<br /><br />Take care,<br />PatrickPatrick Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01690842509026070505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7812058365408775514.post-48542700269356587002015-05-09T10:27:33.498-05:002015-05-09T10:27:33.498-05:00My name is Allen E Hagaman and I am directly relat...My name is Allen E Hagaman and I am directly related and named after the Navy lineman Allen O Hagaman from Lakehurst, New Jersey, who was the only person on the ground to die in the Hindenburg crash. <br />.<br /> An article on my great uncle's part in the Hindenburg crash would be very interesting. I am not sure if I could be of much help since I moved away from New Jersey when I was 11 years old in 1967.<br /><br />Good day,<br />Allen Hagaman <br />ahjamweb@gmail.comAllen Hagamannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7812058365408775514.post-85041352571922083202013-09-02T20:10:37.919-05:002013-09-02T20:10:37.919-05:00Hi Milan,
Actually, I've been gathering what ...Hi Milan,<br /><br />Actually, I've been gathering what info I can find on Allen Hagaman and will indeed eventually pull it all together into an article. <br /><br />I never have found a photo of him, though. Hopefully one day.<br /><br />Take care,<br />PatrickPatrick Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01690842509026070505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7812058365408775514.post-56985653179428405162013-09-02T14:45:10.325-05:002013-09-02T14:45:10.325-05:00Hello Patrick,
Thanks for the additional explanat...Hello Patrick,<br /><br />Thanks for the additional explanation. Now if I may bother you with just one more question; non related to this article (been meaning to ask you this for a long time now but kept forgetting): could you possibly add some info - ANY info - and a photo if you have of that ground crewman who was killed when LZ129 crashed? Yes, he wasn't aboard the ship, but somehow I've always felt that he should be part of your "Faces" family. Thanks to your monumental research I got to know all these 97 faces pretty good by now, but could never found anything on this man - except a brief mention in one recollection of the event by some other ground crewman (can't remember the source, but it's on Youtube), where he said something like "we were just underneath the ship when it caught fire, we ran for our lives, and sadly one of our guys was too slow / tripped on something and didn't make it".<br /><br />Of course, you can just post the info in your reply here if the article idea seems a bit odd. <br /><br />Kind regards from Serbia,<br /><br />MilanMilan Zivancevicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7812058365408775514.post-68509201787689476512013-08-31T12:36:56.338-05:002013-08-31T12:36:56.338-05:00Hi Milan,
You know, I'm not really sure. Ther...Hi Milan,<br /><br />You know, I'm not really sure. There really are no first-hand accounts as to what happened in that part of the ship. I don't believe Josef Leibrecht ever actually wrote down his personal recollections of the disaster, and what I have is all second- or third-hand information from questionable sources like Mooney.<br /><br />And of course, none of the other men from the bow section (except Bauer and Groezinger, who were about 30 feet aft of Leibrecht) survived long enough to tell their tales. Most of them can be seen falling from the ship in the newsreels, but it's difficult to tell if they're deliberately jumping or simply losing their grips and falling. (I suspect it's the former, though.)<br /><br />I should probably edit that sentence in the Leibrecht article to more closely reflect what I've written in the Alfred Stoeckle article, though.<br /><br />No idea when this will all be released in book form. Unfortunately, from a copyright perspective, it's a lot more difficult to publish photos in a book than on a non-profit web page like this. I have never quite figured out how I would work that out. For now, the web site approach works a lot better for my purposes.<br /><br />But hopefully there will be a "Faces" book eventually!<br /><br />PatrickPatrick Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01690842509026070505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7812058365408775514.post-11081514635612189642013-08-26T00:02:06.456-05:002013-08-26T00:02:06.456-05:00"For the rest of his life, Leibrecht would re..."For the rest of his life, Leibrecht would remember the awful image of the men on the stairs ahead of him gradually losing their grips one by one and falling to their deaths."<br /><br />Interesting... "gradually losing their grips one by one and falling to their deaths", but in the Alfred Stöckle section you wrote that "most of them jumped anyway, in a desperate attempt to escape the flames":<br /><br />"When the Hindenburg caught fire a few minutes later, Stöckle and most of the others in the bow section suddenly found themselves engulfed in fire and at least 150 feet above the ground, unable to jump to safety. Most of them jumped anyway, in a desperate attempt to escape the flames. Stöckle appears to have done the same..."<br /><br />So what was it then? Perhaps a combination of both...<br /><br />P.S. We want the "Faces of the Hindenburg" book, come on! ;)Milan Zivancevicnoreply@blogger.com